Yup some here are in denial but what many said would happen did just happen. They're not "six months behind": the model is totally SOTA. Cheaper, faster and they don't just crush Sonnet 5 and Opus 4.8: on 6 of the 14 benchmarks they posted Kimi K3 is in front of Fable.

Of course the shills are shifting their tone: this thread as devolved into "sure yup it's totally SOTA but it sucks because it'll use more tokens than Fable to do the same task".

I take it that's the new tune we'll hear for a while. Oh well, at least we won't have to suffer the "they're six months behind, so they're totally useless" anymore.

P.S: I'll make a prediction... We'll hear the "buuuuuuuuut it uses more tokens for the same task" for a few weeks, then we'll get Fable 5.1 and those same posters are going to post "Fable 5.1 is so much ahead you're missing out if you're still on that piece of turd that Fable 5 or K3 is".

> I'll make a prediction

You just hope that BigLabs & BigTech doesn't gut out the talent from Chinese labs. They certainly have the money & impetus.